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Post by insane on Sept 15, 2012 22:28:19 GMT -6
hard to get too much done with how ridiculously partisan the GOP has become
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Post by svedda on Sept 15, 2012 22:28:44 GMT -6
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Post by losanglife on Sept 15, 2012 22:30:08 GMT -6
i've ignored all of rbx's posts in this thread fwiw.
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Post by svedda on Sept 15, 2012 22:30:48 GMT -6
Alright, I'll bite. You classify Republican's as well informed, educated, and realistic. Right. I classify them as the most out of touch political party that this country has seen in a long, long time. It's too easy to blame George Bush at this point. Newer targets exist. Congressional Republican's set out to derail the Obama presidency at any cost. They directly damaged the future of this country by playing games over the debt in the summer of 2011 and blocking the President's job initiative. However, even if Obama did have his way..and decades of financial deregulation and and minimal intervention didn't explode just as Bush was leaving (invalidating the principles of Ronald Reagan, Friedman, Greenspan, etc.), had there not been two unfunded wars (technically..one war and one cowboy vendetta), and unfunded Medicare expansion..we would still be left with an Obama that killed Osama bin Laden with his bare hands. We'd still be left with an Obama that bailed out the American auto industry while mandating that they find new, innovative ways to double mileage standards. We'd still have an Obama that brought free market principles to an already socialistic healthcare system and improved it for a vast majority of Americans. Or, maybe..we can go with the alternative. Maybe we can go with more unfunded tax cuts - that's great for lowering the debt AND has proven to be incredibly helpful for middle class families. Or perhaps we can continue to squabble over gay marriage and abortion? I hear those can be real dredges on the economy. (Please note the dripping sarcasm in my last paragraph. Thanks.) Wait are you pro Obama or not
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Post by losanglife on Sept 15, 2012 22:31:17 GMT -6
he's just bringing in facts
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Post by insane on Sept 15, 2012 22:31:21 GMT -6
yeah socialism has really harmed the quality of life in the scandinavian countries and canada
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Post by Maniac on Sept 15, 2012 22:31:40 GMT -6
Alright, I'll bite. You classify Republican's as well informed, educated, and realistic. Right. I classify them as the most out of touch political party that this country has seen in a long, long time. It's too easy to blame George Bush at this point. Newer targets exist. Congressional Republican's set out to derail the Obama presidency at any cost. They directly damaged the future of this country by playing games over the debt in the summer of 2011 and blocking the President's job initiative. However, even if Obama did have his way..and decades of financial deregulation and and minimal intervention didn't explode just as Bush was leaving (invalidating the principles of Ronald Reagan, Friedman, Greenspan, etc.), had there not been two unfunded wars (technically..one war and one cowboy vendetta), and unfunded Medicare expansion..we would still be left with an Obama that killed Osama bin Laden with his bare hands. We'd still be left with an Obama that bailed out the American auto industry while mandating that they find new, innovative ways to double mileage standards. We'd still have an Obama that brought free market principles to an already socialistic healthcare system and improved it for a vast majority of Americans. Or, maybe..we can go with the alternative. Maybe we can go with more unfunded tax cuts - that's great for lowering the debt AND has proven to be incredibly helpful for middle class families. Or perhaps we can continue to squabble over gay marriage and abortion? I hear those can be real dredges on the economy. (Please note the dripping sarcasm in my last paragraph. Thanks.) Wait are you pro Obama or not Seriously?
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Post by losanglife on Sept 15, 2012 22:32:04 GMT -6
lol at responding to svedda, this shit is all going over his head.
He just wants to know who you're voting for.
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Post by insane on Sept 15, 2012 22:32:19 GMT -6
socialism has been turned into a dirty word in america for some reason
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Post by svedda on Sept 15, 2012 22:33:01 GMT -6
Wait are you pro Obama or not Seriously? Everything you listed that Obama has done is bad so I'm confused why you're attacking rbx
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Post by Maniac on Sept 15, 2012 22:33:07 GMT -6
socialism has been turned into a dirty word in america for some reason That's because 9 out of 10 people in America cannot properly define socialism. It's a 'buzz' word for the extreme right wing.
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Post by svedda on Sept 15, 2012 22:34:06 GMT -6
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Post by rbx on Sept 15, 2012 22:34:10 GMT -6
hard to get too much done with how ridiculously partisan the GOP has become Obama is the worst of it all. He's stubborn and doesn't realize that in order to get something to work in this country, everyone needs to walk out of negotiations thinking they've won something..just like here. You're not going to get anywhere in negotiations if you're stubborn and dead-set on getting what you want without giving up more than scraps.
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Post by rbx on Sept 15, 2012 22:35:26 GMT -6
Obama was elected president of a government he doesn't even believe in. He doesn't stand behind any foundation this country was built upon.
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Post by Maniac on Sept 15, 2012 22:35:33 GMT -6
I should've posted something about Obama's job initiative getting blocked. Oh, wait. I did.
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Post by Maniac on Sept 15, 2012 22:36:38 GMT -6
Alright, I'll bite. You classify Republican's as well informed, educated, and realistic. Right. I classify them as the most out of touch political party that this country has seen in a long, long time. It's too easy to blame George Bush at this point. Newer targets exist. Congressional Republican's set out to derail the Obama presidency at any cost. They directly damaged the future of this country by playing games over the debt in the summer of 2011 and blocking the President's job initiative. However, even if Obama did have his way..and decades of financial deregulation and and minimal intervention didn't explode just as Bush was leaving (invalidating the principles of Ronald Reagan, Friedman, Greenspan, etc.), had there not been two unfunded wars (technically..one war and one cowboy vendetta), and unfunded Medicare expansion..we would still be left with an Obama that killed Osama bin Laden with his bare hands. We'd still be left with an Obama that bailed out the American auto industry while mandating that they find new, innovative ways to double mileage standards. We'd still have an Obama that brought free market principles to an already socialistic healthcare system and improved it for a vast majority of Americans. Or, maybe..we can go with the alternative. Maybe we can go with more unfunded tax cuts - that's great for lowering the debt AND has proven to be incredibly helpful for middle class families. Or perhaps we can continue to squabble over gay marriage and abortion? I hear those can be real dredges on the economy. (Please note the dripping sarcasm in my last paragraph. Thanks.) Hey, let's all ignore the post that contains facts! Socialism! Hussein! Terrorist! Birth Certificate!
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Post by insane on Sept 15, 2012 22:37:04 GMT -6
yeah socialism has really harmed the quality of life in the scandinavian countries and canada
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Post by svedda on Sept 15, 2012 22:37:09 GMT -6
How about hitting a 30 year low?
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Post by svedda on Sept 15, 2012 22:37:41 GMT -6
At least now all those just taking welfare have great healthcare benefits!!
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Post by rbx on Sept 15, 2012 22:38:49 GMT -6
Alright, I'll bite. You classify Republican's as well informed, educated, and realistic. Right. I classify them as the most out of touch political party that this country has seen in a long, long time. It's too easy to blame George Bush at this point. Newer targets exist. Congressional Republican's set out to derail the Obama presidency at any cost. They directly damaged the future of this country by playing games over the debt in the summer of 2011 and blocking the President's job initiative. However, even if Obama did have his way..and decades of financial deregulation and and minimal intervention didn't explode just as Bush was leaving (invalidating the principles of Ronald Reagan, Friedman, Greenspan, etc.), had there not been two unfunded wars (technically..one war and one cowboy vendetta), and unfunded Medicare expansion..we would still be left with an Obama that killed Osama bin Laden with his bare hands. We'd still be left with an Obama that bailed out the American auto industry while mandating that they find new, innovative ways to double mileage standards. We'd still have an Obama that brought free market principles to an already socialistic healthcare system and improved it for a vast majority of Americans. Or, maybe..we can go with the alternative. Maybe we can go with more unfunded tax cuts - that's great for lowering the debt AND has proven to be incredibly helpful for middle class families. Or perhaps we can continue to squabble over gay marriage and abortion? I hear those can be real dredges on the economy. (Please note the dripping sarcasm in my last paragraph. Thanks.) its such bullshit i dont even understand where to begin. like the reality is setting in that people actually by in to these beliefs and ideas. my world is breaking right before my eyes. like i know people believe different things than i do, and that's cool and all. but this doesn't even make sense.
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Post by svedda on Sept 15, 2012 22:39:04 GMT -6
Alright, I'll bite. You classify Republican's as well informed, educated, and realistic. Right. I classify them as the most out of touch political party that this country has seen in a long, long time. It's too easy to blame George Bush at this point. Newer targets exist. Congressional Republican's set out to derail the Obama presidency at any cost. They directly damaged the future of this country by playing games over the debt in the summer of 2011 and blocking the President's job initiative. However, even if Obama did have his way..and decades of financial deregulation and and minimal intervention didn't explode just as Bush was leaving (invalidating the principles of Ronald Reagan, Friedman, Greenspan, etc.), had there not been two unfunded wars (technically..one war and one cowboy vendetta), and unfunded Medicare expansion..we would still be left with an Obama that killed Osama bin Laden with his bare hands. We'd still be left with an Obama that bailed out the American auto industry while mandating that they find new, innovative ways to double mileage standards. We'd still have an Obama that brought free market principles to an already socialistic healthcare system and improved it for a vast majority of Americans. Or, maybe..we can go with the alternative. Maybe we can go with more unfunded tax cuts - that's great for lowering the debt AND has proven to be incredibly helpful for middle class families. Or perhaps we can continue to squabble over gay marriage and abortion? I hear those can be real dredges on the economy. (Please note the dripping sarcasm in my last paragraph. Thanks.) Hey, let's all ignore the post that contains facts! Socialism! Hussein! Terrorist! Birth Certificate! Still don't understand how it supports Obama, you're contradicting yourself
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Post by Maniac on Sept 15, 2012 22:39:33 GMT -6
Hey, remember that time when GOP senators blocked Obama's jobs initiative?
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Post by Maniac on Sept 15, 2012 22:40:24 GMT -6
Alright, I'll bite. You classify Republican's as well informed, educated, and realistic. Right. I classify them as the most out of touch political party that this country has seen in a long, long time. It's too easy to blame George Bush at this point. Newer targets exist. Congressional Republican's set out to derail the Obama presidency at any cost. They directly damaged the future of this country by playing games over the debt in the summer of 2011 and blocking the President's job initiative. However, even if Obama did have his way..and decades of financial deregulation and and minimal intervention didn't explode just as Bush was leaving (invalidating the principles of Ronald Reagan, Friedman, Greenspan, etc.), had there not been two unfunded wars (technically..one war and one cowboy vendetta), and unfunded Medicare expansion..we would still be left with an Obama that killed Osama bin Laden with his bare hands. We'd still be left with an Obama that bailed out the American auto industry while mandating that they find new, innovative ways to double mileage standards. We'd still have an Obama that brought free market principles to an already socialistic healthcare system and improved it for a vast majority of Americans. Or, maybe..we can go with the alternative. Maybe we can go with more unfunded tax cuts - that's great for lowering the debt AND has proven to be incredibly helpful for middle class families. Or perhaps we can continue to squabble over gay marriage and abortion? I hear those can be real dredges on the economy. (Please note the dripping sarcasm in my last paragraph. Thanks.) its such bullshit i dont even understand where to begin. like the reality is setting in that people actually by in to these beliefs and ideas. my world is breaking right before my eyes. like i know people believe different things than i do, and that's cool and all. but this doesn't even make sense.You could've just went with that.
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Post by rbx on Sept 15, 2012 22:41:11 GMT -6
if he helped people get health care...why did i lose mine?
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Post by svedda on Sept 15, 2012 22:41:12 GMT -6
We would still be left with an Obama that killed Osama bin Laden with his bare hands.
Huh
We'd still be left with an Obama that bailed out the American auto industry while mandating that they find new, innovative ways to double mileage standards.
Ok why is the government involving itself in private businesses
We'd still have an Obama that brought free market principles to an already socialistic healthcare system and improved it for a vast majority of Americans.
Ya all the Mexicans
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Post by Maniac on Sept 15, 2012 22:41:30 GMT -6
Hey, let's all ignore the post that contains facts! Socialism! Hussein! Terrorist! Birth Certificate! Still don't understand how it supports Obama, you're contradicting yourself In no way did I contradict myself. At all.
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Post by rbx on Sept 15, 2012 22:41:45 GMT -6
yet i still get to pay for other people to have it!!! yay
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Post by losanglife on Sept 15, 2012 22:42:30 GMT -6
still tryna figure out how maniac contradicts himself
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Post by Maniac on Sept 15, 2012 22:45:20 GMT -6
We would still be left with an Obama that killed Osama bin Laden with his bare hands. Huh We'd still be left with an Obama that bailed out the American auto industry while mandating that they find new, innovative ways to double mileage standards. Ok why is the government involving itself in private businesses We'd still have an Obama that brought free market principles to an already socialistic healthcare system and improved it for a vast majority of Americans. Ya all the Mexicans Sweet baby Jesus. The part about Obama killing Osama bin Laden with his bare hands was clearly said in jest. And why did the government involve itself in private business? Probably because it averted a national catastrophe. And guess which political party really jumpstarted the beginning elements of the auto industry bailout? You might be surprised. And I have no comment on your last remark. Gibberish.
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Post by Maniac on Sept 15, 2012 22:47:27 GMT -6
still tryna figure out how maniac contradicts himself Oh, I didn't. Thanks for noticing as well.
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